WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Jaan Kenbrovin 12:47 Wed Mar 2
Is Shakespeare overrated?
What say you, motley-minded hugger-muggers?

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riosleftsock 12:49 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Methinks he was a racist, homophobe, transphobe.

Needs cancelling or reformatting into Grime and Drillraaaaaapppp.

Nurse Ratched 12:54 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Shakespeare overrated??!

Poisonous bunch-backed toad!

Would thou wert clean enough to spit upon.

Admiral Lard 12:56 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
The world's best known playwright, sonneteer and all round poon hound.

No current or past writer comes close.

Not even Phoebe Waller-Bridge

cup of tea 12:57 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Craig Robert Shakespeare (born 26 October 1963) is an English football coach and former player who is the current assistant head coach of Norwich City.

Craig Shakespeare

Shakespeare with Leicester City in 2010
Personal information
Full name
Craig Robert Shakespeare
Date of birth
26 October 1963 (age 58)
Place of birth
Birmingham, England
Height
5 ft 10 in (1.78 m)
Position(s)
Midfielder
Club information
Current team
Norwich City
(Assistant Head Coach)
Youth career
1979–1981
Walsall
Senior career*
Years
Team
Apps
(Gls)
1981–1989
Walsall
284
(45)
1989–1990
Sheffield Wednesday
17
(0)
1990–1993
West Bromwich Albion
112
(12)
1993–1997
Grimsby Town
106
(10)
1997–1998
Scunthorpe United
4
(0)
1998
Telford United
1
(1)
2000
Hednesford Town
1
(0)
Total
525
(68)
Teams managed
2006
West Bromwich Albion (caretaker)
2008-2010
Leicester City (assistant)
2010-2011
Hull City (assistant)
2011-2017
Leicester City (assistant)
2017
Leicester City
2019–2020
Watford (assistant)
2020–2021
Aston Villa (assistant)
2021–
Norwich City (assistant)
* Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only
A midfielder, he began his playing career with Walsall, where he made over 350 appearances. After a brief spell with Sheffield Wednesday, he also made over 100 appearances for both West Bromwich Albion and Grimsby Town.

As a coach, Shakespeare has previously worked at West Bromwich Albion, Leicester City and Hull City. He was briefly caretaker manager at West Brom in 2006 and took a similar role at Leicester in February 2017 before he was appointed manager in March. He was appointed permanent manager of Leicester City on 8 June 2017 after signing a 3-year deal. He has since served as assistant manager for Everton, Watford, Aston Villa and the England national team.

Playing career Edit
In his playing days he was an attacking midfielder; he favoured his left foot and his preferred position was on the left side of midfield. He signed as an apprentice at Walsall in September 1979, turning professional in November 1981. Shakespeare rates his goal in a 2–2 League Cup draw against Chelsea in October 1984 as the best of his career.[1] In 1987–88 he helped Walsall to win promotion to Division Two via the playoffs, an achievement which he has since described as his greatest in football.[1] He played well over 350 games for the Saddlers, scoring 59 goals, and in 1989 he moved to Sheffield Wednesday, then in the First Division, for a fee of £300,000.

He spent less than a year at Hillsborough, before moving to West Bromwich Albion for £275,000. He stayed at Albion for over three years, making 128 appearances in total and becoming the team's first choice penalty taker. He scored twice from the penalty spot in Albion's first ever game in the Third Division, a 6–3 victory over Exeter City in August 1991.

Albion were promoted in 1993, but Shakespeare moved to Grimsby Town, rejoining Alan Buckley under whom he had played at Walsall. He later moved on to Scunthorpe United, and also played for three non-league clubs before retiring.

Hammer and Pickle 12:59 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Massive bass man

zebthecat 1:00 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Nurse Ratched 12:54 Wed Mar 2

Unseam him from knave to chaps.

Also Robbie was a fantastic drummer.

Hello Mrs. Jones 1:00 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Not very PC
Old black ram tupping his white ewe

arsene york-hunt 3:06 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Absolutely not over-rated. The man was a fucking genius.Take this for example, probably the cruelest put down in the history of literature:

New King Henry 5th To Falstaff his old drinking partner.

I know thee not, old man: fall to thy prayers;
How ill white hairs become a fool and jester!
I have long dream'd of such a kind of man,
So surfeit-swell'd, so old and so profane;
But, being awaked, I do despise my dream.
Make less thy body hence, and more thy grace;
Leave gormandizing; know the grave doth gape
For thee thrice wider than for other men.
Reply not to me with a fool-born jest:
Presume not that I am the thing I was;

altyhammer 3:16 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Well said sire.

Sydney_Iron 4:46 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Isnt he on the woke and cancel culture list for eradication or at least to be removed from schools etc?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9263735/Woke-teachers-cut-Shakespeare-work-white-supremacy-colonization.html

Not overarted, unlike his Sisters though they were shit!

Leeshere 4:47 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Not only the greatest playwright, but Shakespeare also invented approximately 1700 words in the English language.

nychammer 7:41 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Always a shimano man myself

Coffee 8:00 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Macbeth: Fly thee forth, great thane, or I shall cunt thee in the bastard.

Macduff: Hold thy tongue, my liege, lest I hold it for thee! This be not a playground for the few. Nay, tis a pissing bath for the many.

Two early WHO mods. And you think Shakespeare is overrated?

Nagel 8:13 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Not overrated at all. Prefer to read than sit through his plays though.

I do wonder whether he would have retained his popularity for so long if not for the King James bible being produced during his lifetime. His use of language and that of the other famous playwrights of the period like Marlowe and Ben Jonson would have felt less archaic and more familiar to people because of their knowledge of the Bible.

gph 9:08 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
People who can't spell tend to think he is overrated.

Ironically.

Son of Sam 9:10 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Can you nominate in order now the degrees of the lie? I will name you the degrees. The first, the Retort Courteous; the second, the Quip Modest; the third, the Reply Churlish; the fourth, the Reproof Valiant; the fifth; the Countercheck Quarrelsome; the sixth, the Lie with Circumstance; the seventh, the Lie Direct. All these you may avoid but the Lie Direct; and you may avoid that too, with an If. . . . Your If is the only peace-maker; much virtue in If.

Super stuff.

Mad Dog 9:15 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Personally I think his stuff is utter shite.

But then again I wasn't around in the 1500's

Nagel 9:16 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Neither was Shakespeare.

Nagel 9:19 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Oops. Misread that.

Sven Roeder 10:25 Wed Mar 2
Re: Is Shakespeare overrated?
Not sure if this is the source of this but Jim Broadbents character in the new film The Duke (activist and abysmal Geordie playwright steals portrait of Duke of Wellington from the National Gallery in 1960).

'Too fond of his Kings' he says
Prefers Chekhov

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